1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:05,390 and this is weapons 2 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:08,330 let's talk a second about the CIA thing 3 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:10,080 because this is hilarious and I want to 4 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:12,960 tell the audience about my favorite UFO 5 00:00:19,490 --> 00:00:16,560 documentary of all time the only UFO 6 00:00:24,410 --> 00:00:19,500 documentary completely funded and 7 00:00:26,929 --> 00:00:24,420 produced by the CIA it was narrated by 8 00:00:28,490 --> 00:00:26,939 Rod Serling who is the the voice of The 9 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:28,500 Twilight Zone I mean just the greatest 10 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:30,720 ever and it was in response to a 11 00:00:34,850 --> 00:00:32,820 previous uh documentary where they were 12 00:00:37,069 --> 00:00:34,860 kind of uh pushing down the UFO topic 13 00:00:40,670 --> 00:00:37,079 being negative trying to dismiss people 14 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:40,680 this documentary is called UFOs past 15 00:00:45,049 --> 00:00:43,200 present and future and it is an 16 00:00:47,630 --> 00:00:45,059 excellent documentary narrated by Rod 17 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:47,640 Sterling that I actually have a link for 18 00:00:52,729 --> 00:00:49,680 what we'll post it for people it is so 19 00:00:54,590 --> 00:00:52,739 cool it's like an apology video right a 20 00:00:56,510 --> 00:00:54,600 couple other things though is that I've 21 00:00:58,610 --> 00:00:56,520 talked to people who have flown these 22 00:01:02,569 --> 00:00:58,620 planes out of Area 51 in these secret 23 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:02,579 programs and I know for sure that the 24 00:01:07,490 --> 00:01:04,680 first testing of these planes that were 25 00:01:10,250 --> 00:01:07,500 supposed to be the highest ever the 26 00:01:14,410 --> 00:01:10,260 highest flying planes ever at the time 27 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:14,420 that they had objects UFOs unknowns 28 00:01:18,649 --> 00:01:16,799 above them when they did their first 29 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:18,659 test flights so somebody's got attack 30 00:01:22,969 --> 00:01:20,939 that is better than ours now the first 31 00:01:25,730 --> 00:01:22,979 time you put me in coach I can't believe 32 00:01:27,649 --> 00:01:25,740 you trusted me oh my God my beard was 33 00:01:30,050 --> 00:01:27,659 probably way too long for the insanity 34 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:30,060 going on in my brain but you had me out 35 00:01:37,789 --> 00:01:34,320 you had me out sorry I came out with my 36 00:01:40,730 --> 00:01:37,799 camera first row at the Atomic Testing 37 00:01:45,710 --> 00:01:40,740 Museum and you were interviewing on 38 00:01:48,609 --> 00:01:45,720 stage uh the chief scientist for the CIA 39 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:48,619 out at Area 51 and the the head 40 00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:51,600 historian for the CIA out of there if 41 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:52,740 you want and they were just going to 42 00:01:56,389 --> 00:01:54,720 talk about area 51. so here comes the 43 00:01:58,670 --> 00:01:56,399 bearded guy always holding the camera 44 00:02:00,109 --> 00:01:58,680 and you didn't really know if I was a 45 00:02:02,210 --> 00:02:00,119 loose Candy net now you know I'm a loose 46 00:02:04,490 --> 00:02:02,220 candy yeah it's confirmed yeah confirmed 47 00:02:06,289 --> 00:02:04,500 so uh so I was sitting there thinking oh 48 00:02:08,809 --> 00:02:06,299 man please raise my hand will George 49 00:02:10,249 --> 00:02:08,819 call on me I got a question to ask and I 50 00:02:12,530 --> 00:02:10,259 think I asked him like three questions 51 00:02:15,050 --> 00:02:12,540 and it was very specific are you aware 52 00:02:16,190 --> 00:02:15,060 as the lead historian at robarge is his 53 00:02:19,250 --> 00:02:16,200 last name are you aware as a lead 54 00:02:21,229 --> 00:02:19,260 historian that the CIA funded and 55 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:21,239 produced a documentary called UFO's past 56 00:02:24,890 --> 00:02:23,220 present and future and he was like I 57 00:02:26,869 --> 00:02:24,900 don't have knowledge of that but then I 58 00:02:30,170 --> 00:02:26,879 asked him about site four 59 00:02:32,089 --> 00:02:30,180 and man it was I think it was genuinely 60 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:32,099 like they weren't maybe they didn't know 61 00:02:36,170 --> 00:02:34,260 but it looked Shady they were like 62 00:02:37,850 --> 00:02:36,180 Whispering back and forth and like so it 63 00:02:39,170 --> 00:02:37,860 was just cool to be able to ask them 64 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:39,180 specifically and they they couldn't 65 00:02:42,770 --> 00:02:40,920 confirm they had no specific knowledge 66 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:42,780 but that was so funny because I couldn't 67 00:02:46,250 --> 00:02:44,280 believe you called I mean thank you for 68 00:02:47,630 --> 00:02:46,260 that thank you and and being able to ask 69 00:02:49,130 --> 00:02:47,640 them directly that was a big moment for 70 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:49,140 me to be able to film that just sitting 71 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:02,869 [Music] 72 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:05,030 my name is George Knapp I'm a journalist 73 00:03:10,369 --> 00:03:07,739 at klas and unlike this these guys here 74 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:10,379 my connection to the topic of Area 51 is 75 00:03:14,509 --> 00:03:12,480 a little more tenuous I have never been 76 00:03:16,729 --> 00:03:14,519 inside the place I will never be allowed 77 00:03:18,190 --> 00:03:16,739 to get inside the place uh but I'll tell 78 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:18,200 you I've been writing about it since 79 00:03:24,290 --> 00:03:21,599 1985. I've spent I haven't been inside 80 00:03:26,210 --> 00:03:24,300 but I've spent more days and nights 81 00:03:28,190 --> 00:03:26,220 outside Hearing in than you can ever you 82 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:28,200 can imagine trying to dodge security and 83 00:03:33,170 --> 00:03:30,000 coyotes and whatever else is out there 84 00:03:35,690 --> 00:03:33,180 and uh you know when I die I'm sure that 85 00:03:38,750 --> 00:03:35,700 this will be somehow Area 51 will be 86 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:38,760 part of my uh obituary along with Tales 87 00:03:41,210 --> 00:03:40,260 of various debauchery and other things 88 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:41,220 like that 89 00:03:45,770 --> 00:03:43,500 um this is a panel of Extraordinary 90 00:03:47,630 --> 00:03:45,780 People United by their interested and 91 00:03:50,270 --> 00:03:47,640 involvement with the most extraordinary 92 00:03:52,009 --> 00:03:50,280 places we all know a place that you know 93 00:03:54,350 --> 00:03:52,019 it's sort of a contradiction in terms 94 00:03:56,149 --> 00:03:54,360 that is the world's best known secret 95 00:03:57,949 --> 00:03:56,159 military base 96 00:04:00,110 --> 00:03:57,959 um kind of the rock star of the Off the 97 00:04:02,330 --> 00:04:00,120 Grid testing facilities It's A Place 98 00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:02,340 With No Name and a place with a whole 99 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:04,620 lot of needs you know uh Paradise Ranch 100 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:09,360 the Box a Watertown area 51 Dreamland or 101 00:04:13,850 --> 00:04:11,519 the current official name very catchy in 102 00:04:16,610 --> 00:04:13,860 my opinion an operating location near 103 00:04:19,370 --> 00:04:16,620 Groom Lake but put that on a bumper 104 00:04:22,370 --> 00:04:19,380 sticker or a t-shirt Area 51 as we all 105 00:04:24,650 --> 00:04:22,380 know has been shrouded in secrecy uh 106 00:04:26,450 --> 00:04:24,660 some would argue too much secrecy and 107 00:04:28,249 --> 00:04:26,460 the cone of silence that was sort of 108 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:28,259 dropped over the base at least for a 109 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:30,720 while has been a contributing factor to 110 00:04:34,490 --> 00:04:32,460 all kinds of wild stories that have 111 00:04:37,370 --> 00:04:34,500 cropped up most of which I have reported 112 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:37,380 at one time or another so tonight we'll 113 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:39,180 talk about secrecy a little bit how and 114 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,860 why secrets are kept 115 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:42,720 about some of the steps that are taken 116 00:04:46,909 --> 00:04:44,940 to ensure that secrets were and still 117 00:04:49,070 --> 00:04:46,919 aren't being kept and we'll talk about 118 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:49,080 the steps that have been taken to lift 119 00:05:03,950 --> 00:04:50,880 the veil to allow the public to finally 120 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:06,890 we did not talk about a lot of things it 121 00:05:10,670 --> 00:05:09,360 went on during that period but during 122 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:10,680 that period 123 00:05:16,969 --> 00:05:13,440 Technology based on Spain and 124 00:05:20,510 --> 00:05:16,979 Aeronautics and electronics stealth and 125 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:20,520 so on was the most advanced r d effort 126 00:05:43,930 --> 00:05:50,749 [Music] 127 00:05:54,350 --> 00:05:52,850 I really appreciate you guys coming 128 00:05:57,050 --> 00:05:54,360 forward and talking about all this it's 129 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:57,060 fascinating so as one of the highest 130 00:06:02,090 --> 00:05:59,759 ranking CIA officials out at Area 51 131 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:02,100 during a very exciting time it sounds 132 00:06:08,029 --> 00:06:05,220 like are you aware of a facility or 133 00:06:13,550 --> 00:06:08,039 facilities on or near Nellis range 134 00:06:32,670 --> 00:06:13,560 designated S4 past present or future 135 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:39,650 [Music] 136 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:53,390 thank you 137 00:06:58,969 --> 00:06:56,330 ever heard of an S4 at Tonopah there is 138 00:07:00,469 --> 00:06:58,979 a size 4 a tonify test range which by 139 00:07:02,090 --> 00:07:00,479 the way tone of our test branch is 140 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:02,100 listed in some of the Department of 141 00:07:07,249 --> 00:07:05,400 energy phone books as area 52. so that 142 00:07:09,529 --> 00:07:07,259 that would explain the public 143 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:09,539 acknowledgment from uh information 144 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:12,180 officer in 1989 when a well-known 145 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:14,160 journalist called and asked about a 146 00:07:18,590 --> 00:07:16,080 facility called S4 they were probably 147 00:07:21,170 --> 00:07:18,600 referring to the one in Tonopah most 148 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:21,180 likely and are there multiple or single 149 00:07:26,330 --> 00:07:23,759 s scores that any of you are aware of we 150 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:26,340 had a side four that where we parked our 151 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:28,500 Soviet thank you very much fascinating 152 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:31,280 so the last question is for Dr robarge 153 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:32,639 [Music] 154 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:34,560 um just that personal curiosity I get to 155 00:07:39,770 --> 00:07:36,960 ask the you know weird questions 156 00:07:42,350 --> 00:07:39,780 so as the chief historians and CIA are 157 00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:42,360 you aware of in 1971 the Department of 158 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:45,000 Defense asked for produced and publicly 159 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:48,479 funded a feature film titled UFO's past 160 00:07:52,490 --> 00:07:50,639 present and future uh where it was 161 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:52,500 admitted on camera by high-ranking 162 00:07:56,749 --> 00:07:55,199 officials in the military that UFOs as 163 00:07:59,450 --> 00:07:56,759 far as they could tell were of 164 00:08:00,890 --> 00:07:59,460 non-terrestrial origin are you aware of 165 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:00,900 that film and the funding of it by the 166 00:08:06,409 --> 00:08:03,599 Department of Defense in 1971. no I'm 167 00:08:08,990 --> 00:08:06,419 afraid not it's uh it would have no CIA 168 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:09,000 equity in it so the CIA is no longer 169 00:08:13,790 --> 00:08:12,060 studying the UFO phenomenon or they are 170 00:08:16,909 --> 00:08:13,800 they're not officially right now 171 00:08:18,650 --> 00:08:16,919 studying the UFO phenomena 172 00:08:20,210 --> 00:08:18,660 thank you 173 00:08:25,089 --> 00:08:20,220 else 174 00:08:27,950 --> 00:08:25,099 Secrets can be kept right 175 00:08:29,270 --> 00:08:27,960 we hear this Washington leaks like a 176 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:29,280 sieve there's no such thing as a secret 177 00:08:36,610 --> 00:08:32,240 Secrets can be kept can't 178 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:36,620 confirm or deny that we keep any secrets 179 00:08:41,599 --> 00:08:48,230 okay everybody